PP 124: Finding and Sharing Your Authentic Voice with Wes Yee

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Kim Sutton: Welcome back to another episode of Positive Productivity. I am so happy that you’re here and I am thrilled to have my friend West Yee with us today.

Wes is a musician, artist and speaker and owns Wes Yee Music. Welcome, Wes. I’m so happy to finally get you on.

Wes Yee: Kim, thank you for having me.

Kim Sutton: Oh, you’re so welcome. Can you share please with the audience a little bit about your backstory because it’s so fascinating.

Wes Yee: Yeah, totally.

So I guess I’m a somewhat recent college grad, I think I might be a little bit younger than some of the other guests. But, uh, between graduating and now, I guess I’ve learned a lot, entrepreneurially.

Wes Yee: I graduated from Berklee College of Music, where I studied music production and audio engineering. And while I was there, I actually got my first credit recording a number one best selling audio book. It was called 13 Hours in Benghazi, which later went on to become a feature film, and then that lead to other things. That led to me getting some credits that ended up on TV like MTV, VH1, Oxygen, E and some other networks and different sports arenas and stuff like that.

Wes Yee: So if there’s anything I’ve learned, it’s that I guess one thing kind of leads to another because then from there, I started doing jingles for the radio, and doing things like that.

Wes Yee: And I’ve always wanted to be an artist and be the face of my own brand, but for whatever reason, back in the day, I didn’t do it. And recently I’ve been able to get rid of the fear of being judged on social media and kind of putting myself out there like that, and being the face of a brand. And that’s kind of the project that I’m putting the most focus on right now.

Kim: I have two things to say about all that.

First off. Age is just a number.

Wes Yee: True

Kim: I mean, yes, I have gray hairs that probably giveaway more about my age than I would like it.

Wes Yee: I’ve never seen them.

Kim: That’s good. You will in the updated headshots that I’m hopefully getting done this fall. But I consider them badges of honor. I mean, I have earned every single one of them.

Wes Yee: There you go. If you don’t have ’em, you’re not working hard, right?

Kim: Well, I don’t know. Some people… Hey, listeners, you can chime in and argue that all you want. Oh, and by the way, you can find all the show notes at thekimsutton.com/pp124. I had to think about that one.

Age is just number and it doesn’t determine where you’re going to get to.

Kim: Have you found, or have you thought about that maybe the issue with being seen online was maybe that you were trying to fit into something that wasn’t really you? And once you found your voice that you were more comfortable exposing yourself? Just because that’s what I found. As soon as I found my voice, I was like, oh, here I am.

Wes Yee: Yeah, cool. That was definitely a big part of it. I mean, when you want to do something, and you’re not doing it, for whatever reason, I think it’s really normal and natural to talk yourself out of it. And your brain will tell you all sorts of things.

Wes Yee: But I also do the audio editing and music for the No Quit Living podcast. And my partner Chris was on the show as well. Shout out to Chris. Yeah, I so I listened to all those episodes, and I listen to what other guests have to say. And I really relate to a lot of it because what I found is that a lot of successful people have kind of been there before. And I think in order to… I don’t think that anybody really is born, and is able to just do something that’s not natural to them, and I think it’s really natural to feel fear and… fight or flight kicks in, and it’s at whether you have your voice or not, you’ll always talk yourself out of doing something.

Wes Yee: And I think that even if you don’t necessarily have your voice yet, you still can do whatever it is you want to do. And I think it may even speed up the process of you eventually finding your voice, and then ultimately succeeding and whatever it is you’re trying to succeed in. But that was definitely a part of it for me.

Wes Yee: I mean, I’m a musician. And I found that, for me, I’ve been I’ve played in so many bands before, and none of them ever really worked out because there was either some sort of drama or somebody wasn’t playing a part the way that I envisioned the song to sound. So part of my new brand and what I’m doing is, it’s all it’s all me pretty much so I write every single word and I play every single instrument and I mix and mastered and produce it that way.

Wes Yee: It’s 100% authentic to what I want it to be and how I want the product to sound. And that’s just me.

A lot of people do really well in bands, and I’m not saying that I couldn’t have potentially done well in a band either with other artists. But just for me to put out the product that I really wanted to hear and how I wanted it to come out to a point where I could actually go forward with releasing it, that’s just kind of what I had to do.

Wes Yee: And every product still to this day, there’s at least probably three or four moments in it, where I just cringe and can’t even listen to it. But I’m at a point now where I can kind of take it for what it is and at face value and understand that that’s just my own being overly critical. And I’ll just put it out anyway.

Kim Sutton: Well, that brings up an interesting point, because just in the last month, right in the last month, or is it in the last couple months, you put out your first video on your Facebook page.

Wes Yee: I did. I want to say maybe two weeks ago, roughly somewhere around that ballpark.

Kim Sutton: And I believe that when you shared with me that you had done it, you said something — and so much has happened in the last two weeks –but you said something about how you were waiting for it to be perfect. And then you finally just said, you know it’s go time just release it even though you’re not perfect.

Wes Yee: Totally.

Kim Sutton: I found that for myself, and I’ve also heard from so many other entrepreneurs, and you were on EOFire with John Lee Dumas. I mean, he even has admitted he was waiting and waiting and waiting and just stalling.  I mean, there’s just so many entrepreneurs who wait until it’s perfect and then nothing ever gets done.

Listeners, you know, I’ve joked in the past that if I started singing, that would just be the end of your subscription and you’re listening because you don’t want to. But I was amazed by… Well, first you sang on on that video. But just how many instruments do you play?

Wes Yee: Um, first of all, I’ll have to feature you on a song. You can sing on it. And it’s… You’d be amazed what you can do with modern technology. But I guess I’m learning Sure, I’ve been asked that question before, and I always have to kind of count. But I’d say that I’d be comfortable to do professionally. Maybe like, four maybe. So piano I’ve been playing since I was six. Trumpet I’ve been playing since I was 10. Yeah. 10. And then I do vocals and then I play guitar and bass as well. So I guess five.

Kim Sutton: Wow. No, Wes, I wouldn’t be so comfortable saying that technology can do anything. My daughter will ask me in the car… and I’m even I am amazed that she can even hear me in the car… “Mom, are you singing along to the radio?” And I’ll say yes. And she’ll say “Please stop.” She’s four.

Wes Yee: I think it’d be really funny and ironic if you gave her voice lessons or something like that like starter early now. So that when she’s a mom, she can be singing in the car and have a totally opposite experience.

Kim Sutton: Oh, she’s amazing. My daughters are amazing. Right now they have memorized. Let it go from Frozen. All the way home.

Wes Yee: I was I was a music teacher at one point in my life, and I think it’s so wild how the new generation of, I guess, Disney movies… I guess we’re in a different generation too. But I remember growing up and just thinking like movies like, Mulan., and like Toy Story, and like Aladdin, where this your classics, because those were the classics for me when I was growing up for some reason, I just assumed that it would be for every other generation as well. But that’s totally not true. Because now you have different Disney Classics like frozen. And the one with the robot that I don’t know that I haven’t even seen, which is a totally different thing. Yeah. So I think that’s kind of crazy, crazy phenomenon.

Kim Sutton: Oh, it absolutely is. And to date myself, I mean, the phenomenons when I was growing up, were Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid.

Wes Yee: Those are great, too.

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Kim Sutton: Yeah. So probably a whole decade before listeners every day. too I have come on regardless of whether or not I know them, I have them fill out a input form. And I thought it was really interesting on yours West that you were talking about your to do list and how you found that if you are in a negative space, when you’re writing your to do lists, or when you’re working on it, you’ll find that nothing’s done. Can you expand on that a little bit more?

Yeah, it happens a little more frequently than I’d honestly like to admit, I start every day with a to do list. And I try not to over saturate it either with things just make me make me feel like I’m doing something I try to actually fill it with things that are small steps towards the big picture, right? There’s definitely days where I wake up, and I’m just so accustomed to doing the to do list now like the same way you brush your teeth every morning I just write a to do list. So that part of it is just kind of second nature. There’s no issue with that. But some days I just find myself literally sitting at my desk and just staring at my to do list for way too long. And when whenever whenever I end up in that state, I’m thinking about whatever negative thing is keeping me from doing it, because I’m not at the point that I’m trying to be it yet. And then what I also, I guess, have realized is that you’ll never really be where you want to be either. Because if I asked myself from four years ago, where I wanted to be, they would be where I am now. But then where I want to be now is higher than where I am. So I digress a little bit. But what I found is that when I’m thinking positively the to do list, it gets done so much faster. Like there’s no wasted time. There’s no time just sitting and thinking. But when I’m in a negative mindset, it just kind of spirals because I’ll be in this negative mindset. And I’ll be looking at my to do list and not scratching anything off. And then from there, the next thought is, like, Well, why haven’t I scratched anything off? It’s already like, whatever o’clock and nothing’s done yet. And then from there, it’s like, Okay, well can I even do this Is it worth even trying to do this and then just kind of spiral. So what I’ve learned to do is when I end up in that state of mind, and I’m thinking about this, I try to think about my thoughts consciously, as opposed to just letting it take over. And I practice a lot of meditation. And I do things like yoga and stuff like that to try to, I guess, control my thoughts as often as possible. But obviously, you know, we’re only human. So it doesn’t happen all the time. And I’ll try to just scratch off the to do list anyways, even if I’m in that state of mind, but it definitely gets done more efficiently when I’m feeling positive and I’m feeling upbeat, and I’m in a healthy state of mind. So I just try to be in that as often as possible. Easier said than done, though.

Oh, very much easier said than done in there. Been days in total transparency that I have had to go back to bed. Yet, I was listening to some abraham hicks seminars and they’ll say you You know, when you’re just in that funk, go back to bed. And I have found that I really do have days it doesn’t happen very often, but once a quarter maybe, where I really do wake up on the wrong side of the bed, and I just need to go take a nap, and wake up and I feel totally refreshed. And I tell myself that I need to be in a better mood listeners. Again, this is episode number 124. But if you go back and you listen to Episode 120, with Linda lair hopped out, you can listen to the proper pronunciation on that episode. She is the co author of Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction. And if you haven’t listened to it yet, actually, you can’t because as of the time of this recording is not out yet. One of the most interesting things that I found out of her book and also by talking to her was that she was really talking about how we need to stay in this present moment and stop worrying about the past, thinking about the past, dwelling on the past and also about the future and just really enjoy where we are now. Like Taking the smells, and the sights and just an everything in the morning that I recorded with her. When I was standing in the shower and realized I was thinking about everything else, and I wasn’t just enjoying that present moment, you know, the smell of the soap and the hot water and the fact that I could be right, they’re enjoying it. So

yeah, I actually just wrote that down the name of the book. I got to check it out, for sure. But I agree with that. 100% they say that there’s a quote, I think it says something like people who are depressed, live in the past, and people who are anxious live in the future. So people who can’t let go of something and are depressed because of that are dwelling on something that’s already happened that’s unchangeable, and people who are anxious about something that’s to come in the future, are living in the future. And it’s totally true. I was definitely pretty anxious and nervous before I recorded on the jld episode. It was my first interview. that I’ve ever done. And I wasn’t sure if I was prepared to do it. So I was feeling anxious because it hadn’t even happened yet. But I was thinking about the outcome and just everything that could go wrong, and everything that could happen with it. And then also, I think anxiety and excitement are essentially the same motion. But what, sorry, that motion emotion, but one has a positive connotation. One has a negative one. So if you’re thinking about the future and a negative way, you’re feeling anxiety, essentially, you still get the same feeling like in your stomach and whatever. But if you’re excited for something, it’s happening in the future as well. But it’s a positive mindset to it. So that’s kind of the realization that came with that and the flip that I’ve had. So before I came on the show with you, I felt excited as opposed to anxious, but I think living in the present is definitely definitely key.

I was sort of chuckling to myself when I was talking about smells and sights and all of that, because I was looking around and thinking about all these kittens I have running around my office and all the kids who drop their stuff out here. But there’s those things that we have to do, that we really should look at as get to do. And the same can be said about what we have, including, you know, smells from the letterbox. I know, that’s nasty, but, you know, I get to enjoy these things. I get to enjoy the mess that comes around along with kids.

Absolutely. Definitely. Because you have kids. Yes, you have a legacy. And that’s an amazing thing.

Wes, what are you working on right now? And, you know, you said where you are now isn’t necessarily where you want to be in the future. So what does that vision look like to you?

Yeah, honestly, not even close if we’re being honest. So right now, I guess I’m just working on just making as big of an impact as I can as possible. I do jingles for the radio as well. And the appeal for For me, when I started doing that was that when I started, there was no emotional connection or attachment to the piece. It was just I would get it done. And then when the client thought it was done, I knew the product was done. So there was no release date, or there was no a few cringy moments that I had to fix before I release it, but then end up starting the next project and could just throw that one away and just say, I’ll get it right on the next one. Because as soon as the client was happy with the work, it was done. So what I’m working on now is just making as big of an impact as possible. I’m doing it with my music, I’m doing it with my speaking. I’m doing it with my vlogs and my videos, I’m doing it with no quit living, and just trying to do it with as many avenues as possible both behind the scenes and then also as the forefront. So when I do my first speaking gig, which is coming up pretty soon, I’m going to be doing it that way and showcasing myself and telling my story on a stage in front of other people and when I put up my Music I just put out a song today, actually. And there’s probably going to be another one. Well, actually no, not between now when the episode airs, but soon after. And when I put out those videos and those song, it can reach a whole different audience because it’s the internet. And we’re in this digital age where everything’s so accessible. And there’s so much demand for a product that’s so easily consumed. So anybody from across the world can literally listen to my song or watch my video, as opposed to having to come to my speech. So just trying to reach as many people as possible and connect with as many people as possible in that way, on a deeper level.

With what is your why and what is the impact that you’re trying to make?

By why actually kind of fits pretty closely with yours, but positivity is a pretty big aspect of it. So I guess my background is a little interesting. I grew up in a pretty wealthy town, but my parents were immigrants. So you know, we did all right, but we weren’t I wasn’t on the level of a lot of these other people. And it was so wild because when we were younger, I just remember not having the same things that these kids had. And it was crazy, like 16 years old, they already have their first cars and I’m 23 and I just bought my own first car. But they had these cars and everything and, and expensive, whatever. phones, I didn’t even have a phone until I remember way later, and I couldn’t even text until I was in college. But I grew up with these people. And I just remember being young and kind of envious, I guess, because they had that and I didn’t. But now that we’re a little bit older, I reconnect with some of them. And it’s pretty crazy to just, I guess, hear the way they think as a result, and I totally don’t want to call anybody because I still have a few really close friends from that town best friends actually. But a lot of them you know, went through a struggle that I never really had to and that was just whatever depression or feeling they were dealing with because they grew up with all this. So this is just kind of They’re their norm, they’re flatline. They’re plateau so that when they kind of enter the real world, and we’re kind of becoming adults now in our early 20s, and you kind of realize the realities of life, I guess, and how much it costs to just like live and be a human being. And for me, I think because I didn’t grow up with all those things, I don’t take what I have for granted, whereas I think a lot of these people who I grew up with, kind of did, and I don’t want to accuse any of them of anything, because at the same time, it’s not their fault. But I guess I’d like to inspire the next generation to hopefully have less of them, and, you know, taking things for granted and kind of living a life that they’re not happy with, and ending up in a situation that they’re not happy with either, which is inevitable. But the difference is some people get through it, and some people overcome it, and some people don’t. And I think to overcome something like that, something as big and as challenging as that and not have some sort of vice Being in a substance or a person or anything like that is really powerful. And that’s a really good tool to have in your arsenal.

Oh, definitely, I grew up in a divorced house with very different economic situations on both sides of my parents. And it definitely taught me a lot about, you know, how to manage money. And, and I’m not saying that either side. I’m not pointing out either side here. But it was definitely interesting on both sides managed. And it’s taught me a lot as far as even how I’m raising my children. And I and I grew up in a relatively affluent neighborhood as well. But I got my first job at 11 I mean, I was delivering paper out so I could buy snacks, you know, in the lunchroom.

11. That’s crazy.

Yeah, I didn’t ask permission. I started telling my mom that I was getting a job. You go. Yeah. But it’s so fascinating, because now that I have, I have a teenager once I have a high schooler this year. Wow. And it’s so interesting to see How even his friends you know, they all have cell phones. And that’s just a given. However, I expect him to do his chores if he wants a cell phone turned out.

Good. I like that. Yeah, I feel that

his cell phone’s not on right now.

Okay, how do you feel about yourself on being a?

No, I’m Yeah, well, I mean, he, if he’s within Wi Fi, or he can get data somewhere, then he has access. But I told him, if you do not take the initiative to do your chores without being nagged for a week, you know, or I should reverse that I told him when he takes the initiative and does his chores for a week, then I will turn a cell phone back on parents, that’s the benefit of no contract cell phones, you’re not tied into having it on all the time. True,

however, is when he gets older, he’s not gonna have a hard time doing chores or anything like that or needing to find some sort of incentive or anything. Right. The second Major,

right? I mean, you have to go to work, you have to be on time you have to get your work done before the due date, or else you’re not going to get paid. I don’t think as children, a lot of us understand that that’s the Oh, maybe I did, because I did have a job. But I think that a lot of people just grow up. Not understanding that. And that’s what I’m trying to teach. But in the meantime, he knows how to cook. He knows how to clean and do laundry. So

they’re better than I was when I was in high school, that’s for sure.

Oh, yeah. I never learned how to cook and I still don’t know how burn Mac got a box.

I’ve done it a couple times to No way.

Do you think that your shift change then from being income to impact because it sounds like growing up in the affluent neighborhood, you know, and being envious that you may have thought that income and money was big, but it sounds very much now like impact is the bigger picture for you?

Totally. I think the first time I ever heard It phrased that way and actually put into words verbally, was when I edited your episode on the no quit living podcast. And it’s just something I guess. Well, I guess, like kind of thought it. But I’ve never, you can feel something but not really know how to verbalize it or know that that’s what you believe, I guess if that makes sense. And I guess it manifests in different ways. Like I was doing jingles for a check, essentially. Because that’s what I thought I wanted. But if that’s really what I did want, I wouldn’t be doing what I’m doing now. You know what I mean? So I think it was always kind of there. Just also because of the way I was raised. But yeah, I think that I thought that I wanted something different, which was, I guess, just fast cash because of what I saw growing up. But inherently I don’t think I was that type of person. And the first time I heard you put it into words, was just kind of like like to me, so Think I think I knew it, but I didn’t know it, if that makes sense.

Oh, it absolutely makes sense. And I have to give credit where credit’s due I learned it from Brendon Burchard. And also from Danielle Laporte and I’ll put those resources in the the show notes as well, but reading the desire map by Danielle Laporte and then listening to the Brendon Burchard podcast and also reading his books that came at a pivotal point in my life where I was anxiety ridden and always worried about the future, but it was because I was chasing income rather than making an impact. So yeah,

and I think once you make that shift as well, and it’s genuine, ironically, the income kind of just comes in. It takes time, obviously. I mean, the way anybody makes money is by helping other people. Like every product that gets sold is designed to help someone doesn’t matter what it is, whether it’s the camomile tea that I’ve just purchased so that my voice wouldn’t sound hoarse for this interview, but the computer that we’re using To have this conversation, somebody at some point down the road in the invention of that product, built something that would benefit the life of somebody else that they don’t even know. And that’s why they’re successful for having created it.

Oh, I couldn’t have said it better. So thank you for saying it like that. Yeah. And you’re so right, making that shift from income to impact. I was so scared I mean, I really wasn’t scarcity mindset. I was scared because I was starting to say no to opportunities because it really wasn’t in my it just wasn’t in my passion place. But I’m amazed with and I hope listeners that you take this to heart and start saying no and start chasing impact chasing impact. How would you put that?

I guess that that works, chasing, chasing, creating an empire creating.

Yeah, thank you. instead of chasing income, we have never been in a better financial situation and And I don’t say that to brag. But I’ve also never been in this mindset or in this physical health that I am just because number one, I’m not saying yes to everything. So I’m not staying up all night. I mean, even this is gonna sound so silly. But even my hairstylist noticed that my hair was Fuller. And it’s just because I’m taking the time to take care of myself. Finally, I mean, you can make an impact just by taking care of yourself for change.

I think that’s where it has to start, actually. Oh, you’re totally right. I mean, you can but I just think that it’s easier to help other people once you’ve kind of become comfortable with yourself and help yourself as much as you possibly can.

So how do you take care of yourself and what does a day in the life of West look like? If there’s any normal?

Well, every day is different. I don’t have a job. I just freelance and, and I have my businesses but I guess things that I do every day. I have just like a little excerpt written in my notebook that I carry around everywhere. And it’s like a positive paragraph, I guess. And I read it out loud to myself every day twice, probably sound like a crazy person saying that, but that’s what I do. I try to eat healthy. So I try to start my day with, with just putting good food in my body, I’ll make a smoothie with with fruits, and I’ll put kale and spinach and, and stuff like that in it, which is also kind of a new thing that I’m trying. But I have noticed a pretty substantial difference in my energy level, and my mood. So that’s definitely part of it. And then I do the to do list. So there’s that and then I just tried to scratch off the to do list. So from there, it starts with setting this goal of these seven, eight things that I want to do in the day. And then from there, it’s just getting all of them completed. So that way I don’t because I can’t scratch it off until it’s done. So I can’t just start and then say like, oh, I’ll finish it later after I like do this or whatever, because I won’t allow myself to scratch it off until it’s done. And then I get a feeling of accomplishment once I finished the entire to do list as well. And then I try to meditate every night as well, just before I go to sleep. It doesn’t always happen. But it does, I’d say probably like four times out of the week, four to five times a week. I do. And that helps. And I just get to reflect on different things. And I also believe in living a balanced lifestyle. So I don’t think it’s really natural or healthy to just be working all the time. Like, don’t get me wrong, I work pretty much every day. But at the same time, I really enjoy what I do as well. So it doesn’t always feel like quote unquote, work per se because I’ve definitely had jobs where I was like, Okay, I’m going to work now, you know, I mean, and that’s not really what I want. And that’s not ever what I really wanted. So it’s even weird to even call it working sometimes. Because if I’m literally just sitting here working on making a song or mixing a song, then that doesn’t really feel like work not to say that everything I do doesn’t feel like work, because that’s just not true, I’d say when you’re doing something like we’re doing the actual act of doing what we’re doing is only about 25% of it, the rest goes into marketing and doing emails and reaching out to people. But it’s worth going through that 75% for that 25% that you get to do. And then the more you do it to it’s a little intimidating at first, but I enjoy connecting with people and I enjoyed doing these interviews and I and I like talking to people and and stuff like that. So it doesn’t really feel like too much of a chore. I kind of digress a little bit again, but that’s pretty much my day in the life. Oh, yeah. bows lifestyle. So after I do the to do list, there’s still time in the day. So I try to just do other things that I enjoy that aren’t career related or work related.

Well, I think that when we make that shift from income to impact as well than a lot of the quote, work aspect, like the grit and grind also removes itself because it’s a lot easier to even do your marketing when you’re not doing it from the Oh, I need to make money off of it standpoint and when you’re actually more focused on making the impact instead, it’s so much easier to be transparent and authentic in all of your marketing and and your messaging emails, what have you, when you’re doing it from the right point?

I think you just summed up everything I was trying to say like two seconds.

Well, I got inspired from being much more efficient. So speaking of work listeners, in the very near future, the positive productivity podcast we’ll be having a new intro and outro thanks to Wes. So you will notice that as soon as it happens, so and i and i hope that doesn’t feel like work.

And I definitely I’m excited for it actually. I’ve been listening to Can I can I say that uh, you want to make a reference for ELS happy.

Well, that that was a piece inspiration. Yeah. Have you been listening to the 24 hour track?

Definitely not 24 hours. But uh, but I haven’t listened to that song. And I’ve been jamming along with it on my guitar a little bit. So, um, so yeah, I’m excited. I think it’s gonna be good. I’ll make something awesome.

If she’s listening, Jennifer, I love you to bits. my great friend Jennifer is the voice of my intro right now. But I realized that the tune that I had created was just not as uplifting as I really wanted to, to have and, and Wes created the the intro and outro right for no quit living. I did, which is just Yeah. Which is just phenomenal. So I knew where I needed to go and keep it in the friend family too. I appreciate that. Yeah. Where’s where can listeners find you? And then it’s the as the last thing that I always want to ask is, what would be your piece of parting advice or inspiration for listeners.

So you can find me at facebook.com slash w e SYE music, and I make all sorts of different videos, I post all my songs there, they’re all available for free. It’s on Spotify as well if you just search my name and iTunes to basically any of the major streaming platforms, but if you want to follow me and just kind of know what I’m doing and you liked what I had to say here and you want to hear more, I talk about different philosophies there as well. I’m going to be posting videos of my speeches too. And I go through like tutorial videos as well if you’re interested in making a song and even if you’re not trying to be a musician, but you want to start a podcast and you want to have a song for it. I really just bring it back to the basics and show you how to do it so you can follow me there on Facebook. And then also check out the no quit living podcast I do the audio editing and the music for it. Like him said and obviously you listen to podcasts, but if you want to check out another one it’d be really cool if you check that one out, too. And parting piece of advice. I think live A balanced lifestyle is a good one, I think too much of anything, is a bad thing, even a good thing. So there’s a quote, it goes too much of a good thing is a bad thing. And it feels really good to do things like travel, and just drive your car for no reason. But if you do too much of that, then it starts to you kind of over saturate yourself with too much of that. And that’s where it becomes a bad thing. And then same thing with being overly productive and doing too much work. If you are doing too much of that, then you’re not focusing on other aspects of life, because work is only one aspect of it, you still have this timeline that you’re alive for, and you want to be able to know that you spent some of it doing, you know, relaxing and more. I don’t want to say like enjoyable because work can be enjoyable, it should be enjoyable. But I think I think it should just be balanced. I think also it’s hard to be as productive as possible. If you’re just doing as much as you possibly can. So if you spend one day, and you set a goal that you want to do it big or small, if you accomplish that goal that day, and spend the rest of your day doing things that that you enjoy, then you’ll have a better chance of having more days to do more productive things. And it’ll be like actually productive as opposed to just kind of doing it like lackluster just to get it done and feel like you got more done out of it.